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 06-17-2017, 14:42 Post: 59329
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 Guns for self defense part Two

When I was looking for a pistol for 'boat retention' purposes I did as was suggested here, I went and spoke to the local gunsmith, a wise old fart who maintained all the weapons for the local PD and most of the areas serious shooters.

His advice was to get something light and reliable and not be as concerned with size as much as weight and reliability. Stopping power was not as much of a concern as accuracy, as has been mentioned already a bazooka wont stop anything if you cant hit it.

He recomended, and I bought a S & W 422, it is a 'full size' semi-auto unit, mostly aluminum and synthetic, good for a marine environment and for reducing weight. It's not going to stop an elephant, but I can empty that 10 + 1 load of 22 LR's into a 12" circle at 25" as fast as I can pull the trigger because of the almost total lack of recoil.

I'm thinking someone with 11 hot 22 hollow points in their chest cavity is going to have a serious bouyancy and or shark problem trying to swim away from MY boat...

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 06-18-2017, 00:31 Post: 59348
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 Guns for self defense part Two

On general principle I agree completely with you Doc, my first choice WAS a long gun. The problem was two-fold.

First a long gun is not always at hand and sometimes just the sight of a firearm in a holster causes an instant rethink in 'spectators', it has happened twice so far, and a big part of the attraction to Island hopping is the interaction with the locals (fresh fruits, vegetables and seafood is a real nice treat).

Secondly, and just as important, is the matter of stowage, on a high speed canoe like mine things have to be nearly welded in place to prevent movement. If you have never hit a rogue wave at 80 mph, let me tell you, it's... exhilerating... as my wife puts it "They just don't make sports bras strong enough for that!!!"

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 06-18-2017, 15:14 Post: 59359
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Chief, it's a 42' Fountain Lightning, 80 mph is just fast cruising.

I got radared in a poker run just north of Art & Cutter last summer on Lake Ontario at 112 mph with 4 (VERY nervous) people and over 100 gallons of fuel onboard.

I can relate to the knads beating a hasty retreat though, we joke about the drop bottom bolster seats, they're function is to stop the little fellas being driven up into your tonsils.

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 06-19-2017, 01:03 Post: 59363
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Chief, the 42' is only twins, and staggers at that (my preference anyways), you have to go to a 47' before you get to triples, they have a slightly wider beam, mine is only 8'6" wide which was a requirement for me for trailering it between ride sites and for the north / south trips.

I run two 504ci Fords (limited to 5600 rpm) into a pair of #6 Speedmaster dry sump drives (135 gears) which spin a pair of 4 blade cleavers.

White knuckles are a way of life...

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